Helen Zille tries to destroy confidence in a Zuma led South Africa

Posted on March 17th, 2009 by Richard Catto 4,260 views

Helen Zille is a desperate politician.

Desperate for power, yet with the chance of that happening during her reign as leader of the Democratic Alliance practically zero, she has made some last ditch desperate attempts to increase her chances. Recently the aging politician has had her image professionally made over. She now looks like she’s 60 going on 30. This rather plain woman has never looked this good in her life. At the age of 58, she has finally discovered how to use make up to look fresh and vibrant, and even attractive.

The DA has also finally decided to appeal to the New Internet Age voter and recently scurried to roll out a BuddyPress (a derivative of the popular WordPress blogging platform) powered web site where supporters can volunteer online to the re-election cause of the DA.

The DA has also invited local Cape Town bloggers to hear their drivel and hopefully blog positively about how the DA is going to herald in a new better South Africa, IF ONLY they win the election.

Well we all know that is not going to happen. Even Helen Zille knows that. She knows it with such a certainty that she is willing to use as much of her political influence as possible to attempt to destroy foreign confidence in a South Africa led by Jacob Zuma. This is completely counter-productive.

This is truly revealing. It shows how little patriotism she truly possesses. She is willing to sabotage South Africa if she doesn’t get in.

In an interview she gave to The Telegraph, a British newspaper, she had the following to say:

“This election is about whether South Africa is going to be a successful democracy or a failed state.”

Baloney, Helen. This election is about the very survival of the Democratic Alliance and your personal political career. The last election saw the demise of the New National Party when it became clear that it had lost the support of its electorate. The Democratic Alliance could follow suit this April 22 when South Africa votes in the next general election, although I doubt that will happen. Either way, whether the DA gains or loses ground, they won’t win.

South Africa has weathered the storms of many administrations that were less than perfect. Jacob Zuma is not going to trash South Africa’s economy, but Zille’s bitter statement could hurt us.

A politician that wishes to become known as a statesman strives to work for the good of all, not just for their own petty ambitions. It doesn’t look like Zille will be counted among these great men and women.

Tags: ANC, COPE, DA, Helen Zille, Jacob Zuma, South African politics
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116 Responses to “Helen Zille tries to destroy confidence in a Zuma led South Africa”

Richard Catto Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 01:05
I want every ignorant foreigner to read this article and realise that Helen Zille is talking rubbish.

South Africa is an incredibly robust country. Our economy has grown steadily since the ending of Apartheid.

Zille is attempting to tap into people’s fears to cause people to vote for her, when there is no need at all to fear the next ANC government.

The economy most in peril of collapse in this world, is the US economy. South Africa has a rock solid economy.

At present ZAR10 buys US$1. However, by the end of 2009, the reverse could be true, i.e. US$10 buys ZAR1.

South Africa has ONE thing going for it – huge reserves of gold. Our gold could back the currencies of the entire world. And if the US dollar collapses, the crisis will precipitate a huge demand for gold.

Don’t believe Zille’s pessimistic predictions of doom and gloom if Jacob Zuma becomes the next president. He will be a far better president than Thabo Mbeki.

Mbeki is a mass murderer. His AIDS denialism cost the lives of millions of South Africans.
FrequentBuyer Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 13:24
They might win the Western Cape though, since the ANC has done so much to fuck things up here. After all, after the ANC fucked up the city, the DA took that.

Your grasp of economics is completely laughable. If you want “ignorant foreign” people to listen to you, try a dose of reality. The DA are more likely to usurp JZ than your $10=1ZAR to come true. And try not insulting you.

Oh – and finally, try writing about something which might interest foreign people. No-one gives a flying fuck about this country. And rightfully so.
Agreed Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 13:55
I agree with you, mostly. Zille tends to sensationalise everything, but I don’t think that her comments will create any kind of significant foreign affect. There is little evidence to show that she has done so in the past, and there is little evidence to suggest that she will do so in the future. Besides the fact that elections are nearby, this is what opposition parties do anyway.

Zuma is a populist, unlike Mbeki (who is an academic). Zuma is unlikely to be a better president than Mbeki, albeit certainly more popular. In fact, Mbeki was a better president than Mandela, economically speaking.

Regarding Mbeki being a mass murderer (saying which puts you in the same sensational category as Helen Zille), I would suggest you research his stance on AIDS a bit more. It is a common misunderstanding to think that he is an AIDS denier, but he – Manto – have never actually denied anything related to HIV and AIDS. In fact, they simply encouraged a healthy lifestyle before resorting to ARVs, which have proven to be deadly when taken with a weak immune system (like chemotherapy on cancer patients). Most of rural SA suffers from a lack of basic nutrition and availability thereof. It’s organisations like TAC that indirectly kill people by forgetting about the importance of health and promoting poisonous drugs like AZT et al. If you do a bit of reading, you will find that, like cancer patients who live healthy lifestyles, there are countless HIV patients who don’t use ARVs because they live healthy lifestyles.

Use it, don’t use it…
Richard Catto Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 14:38
@FrequentBuyer: Actually I’m pretty clued up on economics.

The United States is on the brink of collapse. When that happens US dollars will become useful only as toilet paper.
Richard Catto Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 14:46
@Agreed: The TAC is a heroic organisation, which has saved the lives of millions of South Africans from unnecessary premature death.

ARVs are not “poisonous drugs” they are total life savers. ARVs add 15 years at least to the lives of HIV+ persons, plus a person taking ARVs does not transmit the virus onto others.

Clearly you are squarely in the Mbeki camp of AIDS denialism. Wake up, China. Mbeki was and is a totally incompetent fool.

Your understanding of modern medicine is fatally flawed. Forget the adequate nutrition baloney. HIV+ people need ARVs. Period.
Agreed Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 15:23
TAC has done little to save lives. They’re no different to a union that increases taxpayers’ money with their actions.

“Mbeki camp of AIDS denialism”? Firstly, “denialism” isn’t a word. Secondly, challenging popular consensus isn’t denial. It’s science. And science is about disproving itself. Here’s an example. Most of the world believes Al Gore’s CO2 nonsense without questioning, even though he is no scientist and whose award-winning film is riddled with factual flaws.

Instead of spending millions of taxpayers’ money on mass ARV distribution, spend it on educating the rural areas of SA about health and nutrition. But also distribute healthy food into those zones, as well as staple foods. I’ll guarantee that, with increased wellness and fitness, HIV progression will decrease. This is why HIV is easily regulated in wealthier areas of the world, and why HIV is rampant in uneducated areas. Just as many Europeans have promiscuous sex as Africans. More drugs are abused (and needles shared) in Europe than in Africa.

Mbeki was spot on. The solution is not ARV distribution, but rather healthy lifestyles and diets.

Give an unhealthy HIV-positive person AZT, and watch them die in no time.
FrequentBuyer Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 15:32
Can we quote you on that by the end of the year then?
When will this occur? All in one go on Dec 31st, 11:59pm?

Or will we see signs before then?

If so, how soon?

How come no-one else knows about this?
Richard Catto Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 15:48
@Agreed: Denialism is a word. See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_denialism

Mbeki has nothing to do with science. He didn’t challenge shit. He denied it. More importantly, he was WRONG.

ARVs have been proven scientifically to extend lives. Don’t bother commenting further here – your idiotic comments will be deleted.
Richard Catto Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 15:54
@FrequentBuyer: Did you not read the words “could be”?

Other people do know about this. Plenty of people. Just not you.

Here, educate yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnXZzx9pAmQ

Watch the entire series or you will remain ignorant.
Agreed Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 15:59
Why would Mbeki want to kill people? That makes no sense.

No.

His goal was not to deny AIDS (which he has never done), but to encourage nutrition and health. Put an unhealthy person on AZT, and they become ill – if not dead.

The same applies to chemotherapy.

ARVs should not be an ongoing treatment. They should be short treatments.

Why is promoting health, fitness, and diet such a bad thing worthy of intolerance and comment deletion? I know people with HIV who take no ARVs simply because they live healthy lifestyles.

Are you saying that it’s okay to pump sickly people with harmful drugs that will make them worse because they have no way of staying healthy?
Hanlie Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 17:42
Hey Richard

Do you actually believe the rubbish you are writing?!

We DO NOT have a solid economy. And, we are NOT weathering the storm here in South Africa. May I remind you that in 1990 ABSA had to be bailed out with 2 Billion of our rands…that was just the start. We have the same money going around and around. If we had such a lekker economy why have so many professionals left our shores?! Our productivity index has fallen and fallen. You yourself moaned about shoddy service in companies – so imagine what BEE is costing companies…
Its very callous of you to make out that everything is hunky dory in this country! Everyone including myself have been the victim of violent crime. Because I am white I am a third class citizen. My insurance friends have seen their commissions slashed from R6000 to R1200 and now are trying to find work and so on. And now my friends have lost 2/3 of their pensions because the company that was handling it has lost so much money in investments and the JSE has lost more than 50% of its value! – so I do not know what planet you are on? The Same planet that Mr Manuel our ex printer come dahling/puppet of big business that says Oh no SOuth Africa is not going to be affected and barely 3 weeks later says Oh we will be affected.
I guess you will only understand when you join the mass of highly trained and skilled staff on the unemployment line or the bergies on Table Mountain?

And to say that JZ is not going to be bad for our country well either you are joking or you are so far up the ANC’s arse its not funny doll. It is an insult to have this uneducated polygamist and lets not forget honorary pastor running our country!
Richard Catto Says:
March 18th, 2009 at 19:35
@Hanlie: I might ask you the same question.

Sorry that you feel that you are a third class citizen. I don’t feel inferior in any way.

And really are you seriously going to quote something that happened in 1990? Please. Give me a break. That happened under Apartheid and NOTHING from that era can be taken to reflect the current economy.

South Africa’s economy is rock solid. That is an undeniable fact. You should watch the 2009 budget discussion video hosted by KPMG. Google it.

South Africa’s industry leaders and economists are all very satisfied with the current state of the nation.

Do you think I live under a rock? Do you presume to think I don’t educate myself?

I studied economics at UCT to give myself a more well rounded education. I love the subject. I read regularly on the subject.

Do you? I seriously doubt it.

Please rather ask questions if you don’t know, but don’t presume to think I am as uninformed as you are.
Marko Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 00:30
I don’t remember much about Economics and these days I don’t care much for *any* politician.

I know this post is about Zille but if I may dwell on Zuma for a bit:
He seems to change his mind on issues (eg. Zimbabwe) and then later do an about-turn, seemingly to boost his popularity.
Let’s not even talk about all this shower-to-cure-aids bullshit and all the corruption charges against him… imho where’s there’s smoke there’s fire.
I especially love how he goes and blags on about the ANC and their Christian morals at Rhema Church when the guy is a polygamist and has (18?) children from so many different women, some of which he’s never been married to.

Free and fair elections in SA? I somehow doubt it…
Richard Catto Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 01:37
@Marko: doesn’t matter if you don’t like Zuma. Most WHITE people don’t. Some black people even. But it doesn’t matter. Most likely he will get in, because more people like him than don’t.

Frankly, I could care a less about his morals. I could care a less that he had sex with a woman who cried rape after. People like to make mileage out of the fact that he fucked an HIV+ woman knowing she was. Fact is, chance of a man catching HIV from one bonk from an HIV+ woman is less than 0.02%, and it’s even less if she’s on ARVs. An HIV+ person on ARVs does not transmit the virus.

People like to presume Zuma guilty. Well, he’s not. He has not been convicted of anything and probably never will.

The only thing that matters is whether Zuma will be an effective president and until he’s actually in office, it’s all just speculation.

Zille will never be president. The DA is popular with about 10% of the electorate. I doubt they will get more than 15% of the vote in the coming election. As a party, they are pretty much irrelevant to South Africa. We’ll see how long they manage to hold onto the Western Cape.
Marko Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 12:50
Richard, maybe white people don’t like him because of his close ties to the current ANCYL who, under the leadership of that buffoon Malema threaten to ‘kill for Zuma’.

The fuckers think they are untouchable. They claim to have fought ‘the struggle’ for democracy and our constitution but every time one of them is brought to task they threaten violence against anyone opposing them.

I know you don’t care about his morals, you seem to love him regardless. The problem is though, the youth of this country look up to him.
As if we don’t already have a serious rape problem in this country…
I don’t give a damn about your ARV stats – how can anyone take this guy seriously when on the one hand he claims to be so concerned about HIV/AIDS but then behaves like that?

I realise he hasn’t been found guilty. You know very well these bastards get away with shit (Shabir Shaik?). How quickly did the ANC disband the Scorpions?

The evidence so far Richard is that JZ is a pretty poor candidate for leadership of this country. Do you really see this fool being an effective president?

No South African is irrelevant to South Africa. Just because the majority rule does not make them right.
Agreed Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 13:10
As a leader, morality matters because followers are influenced (especially when they’re mostly uneducated). Obama proudly exhibits his wife and kids and tight family unit. He is seen as a family man with integrity and good ethics. People like that and strive to be like that.

Contrast that with Zuma, who pomps anything with a hole in it, regardless of HIV status and / or marriage status. He has kids all over the place, and has wives all over the place too. The stats around sleeping with HIV positive victims (and the odds of contracting) are irrelevant and inconsequential.

Yes, Zuma is well liked with the masses. But the masses are largely uneducated and duped by lies, promises, and socio-communist propaganda.

Zuma is a populist who sides with whatever stance will get him support. There is no integrity in that.

Zille will never be president, agreed. She is far too sensational too, and a drama queen. But her presence is important, albeit only 12%. But she is consistent. She isn’t the world’s best mayor for nothing. And you can’t take that away from her.

And about his multiple wives? It DOES matter. Because the taxpayer ends up spending millions of rands on supporting them.
Richard Catto Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 15:05
@Marko: I love Malema precisely because he pisses off so many tightly wound white assholes who take him literally. His comment about killing for Zuma was mere rhetoric, never meant to be taken literally. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.

There are, of course, no geniuses employed at that sad organisation known as the SAHRC. Can’t wait for them to be disbanded, and the right to Freedom of Speech reinstated in this country. They are a blight on democracy.

I’m glad the Scorpions were disbanded. It was basically run by a bunch of ex-Apartheid Boer police officers. The police force should have been purged of all these Apartheid loving officers long ago. It’s all part of Mandela’s “love everybody” legacy.

Mandela kissed up to an all white Springbok rugby squad, and 12 years later, SA rugby was still essentially a whites only sport. That’s what you get when you kiss up to racists.
Richard Catto Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 15:12
@Agreed: morality doesn’t matter in a leader. Clinton is a sexually immoral man and he was a much better president than Bush was.

I really don’t care if the president is getting blowjobs and doing a good job.

South Africa had Calvinistic leaders during Apartheid. Full of morals, racist to the bone, and totally useless.

I pity the “followers” who are influenced. Sheep are there to be slaughtered. Get a backbone, or get out.

Our leaders are not there to set an example. They’re there to run the country effectively. Period.

Everything else is bullshit.
Agreed Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 17:14
Morality matters in a leader, whether you think so or not. Comparing Clinton to Zuma is laughable. Zuma regularly pomps women who are not his wife (or wives even). He naais a family friend with HIV. He sings songs about machine guns. He has more than one wife in a country where polygamy is only applied to certain people. He is clearly corrupt (whether or not he is found innocent – which will be solely because he has the ANC machinery behind him). Zuma is closer to communism in his thinking.

Clinton had a blowjob. And you want to compare? Ha ha ha. Also, Clinton left office soon after that anyway.

Another thing. Zuma was not found innocent of rape. He was found “not guilty”. It’s not the same thing. Michael Jackson was found “not guilty”.

It’s about money and power. Not innocence.

Running a country effectively is absolutely about morality. That’s what leaders do. They lead. Leading is not merely about academics and fiscal management.

With great leading comes great following.

But if you want to set the bar very low, then that’s your burden to carry. Good luck to you.
Richard Catto Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 21:06
@Agreed: Please don’t tell me you you think Clinton had only one affair with Monica Lewinsky, because then you are displaying your ignorance.

Clinton is a serial philanderer. He has been unfaithful and promiscuous all his life. Didn’t stop him from being the best US president in recent history.

Essentially it boils down to Zuma being black and prancing around in traditional Zulu dress, which offends whitey. Well fuck whitey.

If whitey wants to live and work in Africa, whitey better start loving black culture or else whitey better fuck off back to Europe.

No court finds anyone innocent, idiot. Get an education for fuck’s sakes. Courts either convict or find a person not guilty.

Zuma is not a rapist, nor is he corrupt until someone can prove in court that he is. Again, you just don’t like black people. Tough shit.

A leader of a country just administers it. That’s why they call it an Administration. Morality only matters to religious assholes.
Agreed Says:
March 23rd, 2009 at 21:52
Wrong again. Why do I bother chatting with you, when you resort to ad hominem attacks…

Clinton was not the best US president in recent history, unless you can define “recent”. “Recent” might mean “the last 10 presidents”, or “the last 10 years”. Since this is your blog, you’re welcome to set the parameters.

What does Zuma being black have anything to do with anything? Do you have a chip on your shoulder? You seem like a really angry little man who plays the race card (yet again). Mandela is black and great. Mbeki is black and great. (Mbeki was the best president SA has seent, and was spot on with his HIV and fiscal/privatisation policies.)

Zuma does look like a twat though, prancing around in his traditional garb. But it’s entertainment and good for a laugh for us self righteous, pompous, further evolved educated Africans.

Zuma is not a rapist, according to the court, yes. But the court isn’t always correct. History has shown this to be true. Hiding behind good lawyers and legal loopholes doesn’t remove the truth. Which only a select few know, in Zuma’s case.

If you think that courts are completely clean of political and financial interference, especially in high profile cases, then you might want to go research a bit…

A leader of a country is a leader in ALL facets. Not just admin. Don’t be naive and apologetic.
Marko Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 18:42
@Richard, Malema could not spell rhetoric much less understand it’s meaning. Stop making excuses for those racist pricks.
Tightly wound whiteys you say? Who the fuck got their panties in a twist over a cartoon?
Those assholes get so wound up when someone challenges their communist cunt leaders, especially a clever white man. How dare he disrespect our esteemed JZ!

I’m not sure how you fit the Scorpions and Apartheid together, I thought the head of the NPA was a black man.

Nobody is arguing with you about the Apartheid-era government either, we all know how crap that was. Time to move on…

Clinton might have been getting blowjobs under the table but that hardly compares with JZ claiming to be fighting the scourge of AIDS whilst having sex with an HIV-positive woman, who was apparently also related to his fiancee.

Don’t talk to me about Zuma’s african culture. He only uses it as an excuse to philander. Prancing around in one’s underpants and animal skins once in a while does not count as culture. I don’t see any other African leaders doing it, do you?
Nice traditional white tekkies there JZ…
How does his heathenistic culture fit in with his Christian morals I wonder?
I have to concur with Agreed though, it is rather entertaining. I can just see the rest of Africa’s leaders hanging their heads in shame though… “there goes the fucken neighborhood”.
Agreed Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 12:46
I like Malema. He brings colour to our very grey and boring politics. He also is expressing his freedom of speech.

I even like the ANC.

What I don’t like, though, is the ANC’s strong majority rule. That kind of power is no good in a healthy democracy. The ANC’s desire to implement a media tribunal, the scrapping of the Scorpions, and the refusal of the Dalai Lama, is evidence of a ruling party with an unsubstantial opposition to challenge and keep it accountable.

Therefore Helen Zille is fine, as is Terror Lekota. Their roles are not to agree with the ANC. That’s the definition of “opposition”. T oppose.

No matter how popular Zuma is, a one-party state is dangerous.
Richard Catto Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 16:12
@Agreed: Mandela spent his presidency sucking up to white racists and the white world loved that.

Mbeki was an idiot who had appointed incompetents.

You are boring and dumb, and I wish you would leave.
Richard Catto Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 16:20
@Marko: Blacks get a free pass to being as racist as they like. It’s called payback and I believe in revenge, big time.

Mandela’s policy of sucking up to white racists, and things like the TRC I consider to be a bunch of shit.

I believe in smacking the shit out of all the Apartheid racists, not allowing them to die in their beds.

They destroyed the lives of millions of South Africans who deserved to have their deaths avenged.

We needed a civil war. We might still get one. South Africa is still chock full of racists.
Agreed Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 16:43
You really are an angry little white man.

Two can play your game.

So consider the following, Richard. Humans evolved starting in Africa. Over time they migrated. What became known as Europeans and Asians developed technologies such as gunpowder and floating ships. With their advances, they returned to Africa and used their gunpowder to take control of the land. Why? Because the Africans were still carrying water on their heads and fighting with spears.

That’s a fact.

So the minority won, using their guns and whatever else.

Like in the animal kingdom, the strongest survive.

The Europeans have the power, and now the Asians are taking over Africa because Africans can’t get ahead.

That’s a fact.

Deal with it.
Marko Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 17:13
@Richard, that’s interesting, so what payback are you expecting for your role in Apartheid? How are you making reparations?

Why must I suffer insults from the likes of racist blacks just because I grew up in the Apartheid era?

Millions, Richard? Where the fugg do you come up with that? Uncle Bob over the border has killed more of his own people than ever were killed during Apartheid. Does our lame-ass government give a shit about that?

What do you expect to happen in a civil war? Are you hoping for a black on white war? Just remember, you are white too…
Richard Catto Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 20:51
@Agreed: I’m angry because I don’t agree with you?

Sorry, but I don’t subscribe to Bullockism. We should have shipped that little turd back to Sunny England.
Richard Catto Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 20:54
@Marko: My role was restricted to doing National Service which I have already written about.

I’m white, but black on the inside. A reverse coconut, if you will.
Marko Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 21:29
LOL, a reverse cocunet eh… let’s see you dancing around in some traditional garb then, ie. underpants and animal skins. You can be ‘le nouveau Zulu blanc’

Do you even speak Xhosa, Zulu or any other indigenous language?
Richard Catto Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 22:16
I believe that Johnny Clegg has already done that, far better than I could ever.

I don’t have any immediate plans to learn Xhosa, mainly because my life is so busy with other more important things, but it is something I would like to do when I have more free time.
Agreed Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 08:32
@Agreed: I’m angry because I don’t agree with you?
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No, you’re just angry. Shame. I hope that works out for you.

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Sorry, but I don’t subscribe to Bullockism
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You don’t have to. Also, he has nothing to do with what I said – which is factual and you can’t prove it wrong. But if it makes you feel better, continue hiding the facts behind silly things like the race card and “Bullockism” and whatever you want.

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I’m white, but black on the inside. A reverse coconut, if you will.
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Identity crisis hey? I’ve heard those are tough. Holding thumbs for you, guy. There is nothing wrong in being proudly white / coloured / Indian while still being African. We’re African but with varying skin colours.

It’s not about the skin colour anyway. It’s about culture and mindset.

Be proud of that.
Agreed Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 09:03
“I believe that Johnny Clegg has already done that, far better than I could ever.”
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That’s a silly example. Johnny “became” a Zulu because he truly loved the culture. It wasn’t about skin colour or politics. He is proudly white, but is also proudly Zulu. And he is accepted by the community and culture for that.

You, however, are obsessed with skin colour and feel guilty about being white.

Johnny didn’t / doesn’t have an identity crisis. Unlike you.
Ja ok Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 12:16
Wie verdien my stem? Wel nie Zuma of Helen nie, iemand sal eendag vir die mense wees en al die kak uitsorteer, tot dan fok net voort ok. Jy moet darem fokking stupid wees om vir die twee te stem. Lagwekkend.
GrandFusker Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 15:39
This Richard blogger is stupid and ignorant to boot.

Helen Zille was the Rand Daily Mail Journalist who exposed the true circumstances around Steve Biko’s death. She also chaired the End Conscription Campaign and was arrested and detained by Apartheid agents for her Black Sash activities. All the senior ANC cadre’s know this and respect her for it, irrespective of her party allegiances and politicking.
KillWhitey Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 15:46
The white man call himself civilized
Cause he know how to take over
The white man come to pillage my village
Now he tell me I have to bend over

Oh yeah, kill all the white man

No I dont like the white man up in me
He rape my people as he rape my country
Everything I love and cherish, he try to take away
We will be rid of him, soon come the day

Oh yeah, kill all the white man
Oh yeah, kill all the white man
Richard Catto Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 15:47
@GrandFusker: Congrats, you just quoted the second paragraph of Helen Zille’s wikipedia article.

If you think I haven’t already read that, then you are the ignorant tard. Wikipedia is one of my favourite sites. I’ve spent literally hours reading it, tracing all kinds of fascinating stories, such as Ancient Roman family histories.

Do you think I would not have read up about Helen Zille before writing about her? I always do my homework, but dumb commenters like you don’t.
Ja ok Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 15:51
Noggal wit van buite maar swart van binne. Jy is wit meneer, kla, punt.

Draadsitter.
Richard Catto Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 16:06
@KillWhitey: Ah, finally a good comment. Yes, definitely. Kill the whitey!
Richard Catto Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 16:07
@Ja ok: At least you didn’t call me a soutpiel.
Agreed Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 16:11
A soutpiel is only applied to someone who has one foot in SA and one foot in the UK (or another country). You’re in SA. You can’t be a soutpiel.
Ja ok Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 16:14
Richard, Kill gaan jou wit pielietjie afsny.
Agreed Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 16:20
“Wikipedia is one of my favourite sites. I’ve spent literally hours reading it, tracing all kinds of fascinating stories, such as Ancient Roman family histories.”
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Wow. That bit of info is as pointless as it is utterly inconsequential. Trying to inflate the public’s understanding of your education has never been this exciting.

You’re clearly a smart guy. You read ancient Roman history. Have you tried reading up on hemroids in Aztec culture? It’s exhilarating.
GrandFusker Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 18:43
Wikipedia? An esteemed Economics grad like yourself references Wikipedia? Its strange that I don’t remember you. (more like ecomics in your case)
Marko Says:
March 26th, 2009 at 19:28
@Richard, it doesn’t matter how black you may feel inside. You are a Scot. A lily-white Scotsman.
KillWhitey wants to kill you too.

@KillWhitey, you stupid ass racist. You rape more of your own people than any white man ever has. We don’t want to touch your women with HIV and AIDS thank you. Now please go and play in traffic you cunt.
Craig Says:
March 27th, 2009 at 16:46
Richard, I hope you dont take this too dramatically, as I can see you are a bright person.

However, anyone that arrives at your blog, or reads just one of your remarks, can clearly see that the size of your head is far greater than that pedestal you place it on. You carefully conceal the fact that you not as worried as the rest of us regarding SA’s future, by playing both sides. There is nothing admirable about Julius, and there is nothing fantastic about JZ taking office. Neither does anyone regularly agree with your philosophies…

I take it, you enjoy being on the receiving end of discrimination? As its seems to fuel your ego to a point where u contradicting your morality – more often, than not. Its quite a sales gimmick, which noticeably attracts much attention- controversially speaking – while you sit, typing away, in the solitude of your office/computer room/bedroom/house/1 bedroom apartment.

I know this, because I too often fall victim to the same tactics(just without the solitude). I also prefer the “losing argument” in most cases, mainly in an effort to determine how many people are willing to see things from a different angle, as well as to see whether the opposed prefer just being stuck up cunts – which is what I usually evolve into as a debate heats up. As one forgets what they were originally debating about, and it in turn, it ends up being a bit of a pride-fest, filled with nasty remarks about one another’s mother.

Anyways, one thing that truly caught my eye, I believe it was in a previous comment of yours, is when you spoke about how generally the wealthy are assholes that tend to ignore the needs of the poor. Amongst that, I recall another comment where you referenced your wisdom and knowledge in economics. However, as far as I know – and correct me if im wrong – wealth is a requirement in a civilized society? And so is poverty? Otherwise there would sure be economic collapse(in the future that is)? If every one is loaded with cash, then who the fuck is going to recycle used toilet paper? Or wipe the ass of the president? Or be the workforce for car manufacturing, skyscraper development/administration/maintenance, security companies, army, navy, police etc etc.
As if we were all minted, surely the economy will rely on ambitious people who:
A: Want even more money – greed(very common)?
Or
B: Earn cash for doing what they enjoy doing – Hobbies etc?
C: Come from a poorer country?

Im not saying you were implying anything in particular by those 2 comments, I was simply pondering what you might have based them on? Ie do you feel wealth should be evenly distributed? Or do you just feel that you are, at times, an asshole to the poor because you have more than sufficient funds available?

Aside from that, and relating to this post, Im one of the many who feel Zille is doing some good. Although I dont condone some of her tactics – mainly “Vote To Win”(clearly focused on particular ignorance) and her new “toi toi” dance that shes been performing on stage. But she has to do, what she has to do, to earn the respect all South Africans deserve. And she has a rather notable history as well – fighting for many worthy causes. Her history is somewhat more notable than many of the current ANC execs (tho I base this on absolute fuckall, as I dont really care much for people who require the finest in luxury material in order to live a happy life, where as Zille happily drives an economical and pollution reducing motor vehicle – Which alone, shows some quality in her personality.)
However, as with most power hungry individuals/organizations.. not everyones personal philosophy stays the same when they are on top. So they either die shortly after(with luck that their good survived till then), or live out their lives succumbing to these financial desires – Once again, im basing this royally on absolute horse-shit.

Anyways, its Friday, and taken me 30 mins to type this, and I feel its about time for the weekend.

PS. Wikipedia is rarely a source of absolute fact. Its corrected daily for its ever increasing issues with errors generated by know-it-alls.
Although, i too personally use it to leach as much info as possibly, until my head is physically in pain.
But saying that, I once referenced GABA to a neurologist, and he didn’t know what the hell it was..

Good weekend all.
Richard Catto Says:
March 27th, 2009 at 17:25
@Agreed: When I was in the “Weermag”, and I say “weermag” rather than army, because during the time I spent there one would have been forgiven for thinking that Afrikaans was the sole official language of South Africa, so little did I hear my native language being spoken, the Boerseuns constantly taunted the English speakers by calling them soutpiele. One would think we were the enemy the way they treated us.

Ironically many of these Boer bitches fled SA when the Apartheid regime fell to “Communism” as they described the hated ANC. I remained, showing that I am the true patriot and they are the treacherous dogs. Their allegiance, in the end, was not to this country and all its peoples, but rather solely to their little African tribe we know as the Boervolk. These people who fled will lose their identity as Afrikaners as their children forget Afrikaans and marry English speakers. Their precious Boervolk will disappear into the mists of history.

So that’s the real irony of an Afrikaner calling an English South African, a soutpiel. In fact, the term applies to them.
Richard Catto Says:
March 27th, 2009 at 17:27
@Marko: I’m not a Scot. I’m a South African. And while I am white, that does not make me a European. I am an African.
Richard Catto Says:
March 27th, 2009 at 17:30
@Craig: I am against the wealthy enslaving the poor, yes. This planet belongs to everyone. Things are going to change. It is inevitable.
Agreed Says:
March 27th, 2009 at 17:59
@Craig: I am against the wealthy enslaving the poor, yes. This planet belongs to everyone. Things are going to change. It is inevitable.
—

Fair point. But the strongest survive. Capitalism is the future. If you want to make it, then become skilled. Find a way. Make a way. But don’t blame the wealthy for your plight. Not everyone who is wealthy made it there by being corrupt. Multitudes achieved their dreams through hard work and sacrifice. And they deserve to have fast cars and fancy houses. And they don’t HAVE to have their wealth distributed or their property regulated. Shifting the blame gets you nowhere. Take responsibility.

If Africa wants to heal, then it must stop accepting charities and hand-outs. It must take ownership of its reality. Nigeria gained independence half a century ago. It’s done little with the opportunities it had. Instead, it now has the world’s largest township.

Socialism and communism are not the future. If you want something, then work for it.
Richard Catto Says:
March 27th, 2009 at 18:58
@Agreed: Capitalism is the status quo. The future belongs to a new dispensation.

Money = corruption.

The current economic system is set up to corrupt people, and it does.

The wealthy are not rich because of hard work. That is a middle class belief and it is wrong.

The wealthy make money effortlessly.
Craig Says:
March 27th, 2009 at 22:42
Its the law of the jungle.

For instance, I always wonder who is coining it out of that sms tv advertising bullshit..
And how does that person feels about fucking over people into unknown weekly contacts toppled with unsubscribe costs…
Agreed Says:
March 28th, 2009 at 09:24
@Agreed: Capitalism is the status quo. The future belongs to a new dispensation.
Money = corruption.
The current economic system is set up to corrupt people, and it does.
The wealthy are not rich because of hard work. That is a middle class belief and it is wrong.
The wealthy make money effortlessly.
—

Money equals corruption? Bullshit. In that case, guns equal murder.

Hey Richard, stop shifting the blame and playing the victim card. PEOPLE equal corruption. Not money. PEOPLE equal murder. Not guns.

Take responsibility. THAT is the new dispensation.

—
For instance, I always wonder who is coining it out of that sms tv advertising bullshit..
And how does that person feels about fucking over people into unknown weekly contacts toppled with unsubscribe costs…
—

Bullshit again. A TV commercial doesn’t MAKE you do anything. A topless girl on the beach doesn’t MAKE a guy go rape another girl.

Again, stop shifting the blame. Take responsibility of your own actions.
Taz Solo Says:
March 29th, 2009 at 01:31
Nice to see everyone working together for a better south Africa. Where is the talk of working together, everyone on this forum is out to prove their ideology is the correct one. You guys are no better than the Jews and Moslem in Palestine and Israel. But what does one expect if your leaders preach that kind of separatist shite. Don’t be a victim to the media and sensationalist propaganda. Mandela had it right, irrespective of your allegiance, race or culture, the key factor must be to forgo our differences and work together towards a better future for all. It’s not a competition guys, please don’t loose sight of that.
Richard Catto Says:
March 29th, 2009 at 17:53
@GrandFusker: WikiPedia is an excellent online encyclopedia, and you quoted it, not me.

Thanks for playing, bozo.
Richard Catto Says:
March 29th, 2009 at 18:01
@Ja ok: No, I don’t think that’s going to happen.

Most black South Africans actually love and respect their fellow white South Africans and it hurts them when some of us continue to hold racist attitudes towards them.

After all is said and done, South Africa is a better country today than it was under Apartheid.

I think if anyone here is not proud to be a South African, then I feel sorry for them that they do not share my happiness.
Richard Catto Says:
March 29th, 2009 at 18:06
@Agreed: Money causes corruption. If there was no money, there would be no incentive to be corrupt.

You should watch Zeitgeist on YouTube.

Imagine living in an economy without money?

Difficult to imagine, huh?
Richard Catto Says:
March 29th, 2009 at 18:11
@Taz Solo: Thank you for your constructive comment.

However, on this blog, we enjoy confronting each other with our ideas.

I’m still surprised how, mostly white Afrikaners, reject the new South Africa and consider themselves third class citizens. That attitude actually angers me, because implicit in it, is the idea that they deserve MORE respect, AFTER what they did!

The white Afrikaner should fall on his knees each night and thank God that he is still alive and not dead, because they surely deserved to all die for Apartheid.

If they get a crumb, they must be thankful. But they demand and make noise as if they have a right to rights. Considering their track record of denying human rights to so many blacks South Africans, my attitude is that white Afrikaners have no rights whatsoever.
Agreed Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 14:30
@Agreed: Money causes corruption. If there was no money, there would be no incentive to be corrupt.
You should watch Zeitgeist on YouTube.
Imagine living in an economy without money?
Difficult to imagine, huh?
—

Wrong yet again. (You’re on a roll, I see.)

Money doesn’t cause corruption anymore than guns cause violence. If you honestly believe that, then I’d encourage you to do some reading and thinking. You probably believe that rock music caused that psycho kid to slash his school mates with a sword.

An economy without money can easily still be just as corrupt.

Corruption has nothing to do with money.
Craig Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 14:41
“Corruption has nothing to do with money.”

Greed and stupidity certainly do…
Shocked Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 10:49
Richard, what joy i took in reading the load of bullshit you typed up above…

You sorry sad shameful little man.

When the boogyman comes to visit you in your sleep, and you feel the cold pistol against your forehead and the click of the trigger, ask yourself “Was Malema being RHETORICAL?
Richard Catto Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 12:15
@Shocked: Does this mean that WHEN Jacob Zuma becomes president you will leave this country?

Or are you just another online talker with nothing of substance to offer to the discussion?
Ja ok Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 15:04
KPMG corruptible?
Richard Catto Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 16:24
@Ja ok: What?
Ja ok Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 16:46
ANC pushing for a KPMG audit, now if the ANC is envolved that means KPMG is corruptable. Anything is possible these days, well if they are caught, that would be the end of them as well. Would you let the ANC take you down with them? Do you have a choice?
Marko Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 16:18
Hai shame, Julius is upset again – over a puppet. I love the way these ANC clowns always bring out the racist card when anybody implies that they are stupid.
Get over it Julius, you are stupid. An H for standard grade matric maths at the age of 21 proves it.
Soutie Says:
April 24th, 2009 at 09:53
Congratulations Richard Catto for single-handedly setting race-relations in this country back by ten years.

Take your self-flagellation, and kindly fuck off. I can’t even be bothered to engage you in discussion.
Richard Catto Says:
April 24th, 2009 at 12:00
@Soutie: This idiot found this article via a google search for “we love helen zille”. Man, did Google send you to the WRONG fucking page!
Obaht Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 17:50
So you got your wish catto. Zumanji is now in.

An alleged rapist (he was aquitted),
polygamous, (no denial here)
corrupt (he was aquitted),
gay-hater (he is sorry for what he said),
woman satisfier (Show me your legs and I will satify you)
and Malema loving boss,
is now leading SA.

Should be fun to watch the show over the next 10 years of his two terms.

For what it’s worth, I hope he can do it, but I doubt it. He has a lot to prove over the next 5 years.
Obaht Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 17:58
By the way, try not to turn this into a racial thing.

Given his track record as a human being, he is unlikely to do a good job. That is all I am saying.

Your faith in him and the ANC is likely to be further eroded as the years roll by and your standard of living continues to deteriorate.
Richard Catto Says:
May 9th, 2009 at 20:11
@Obaht: It is a racial thing. 99.99% of all the white South Africans still hate blacks. They can’t stand having a black president. Get used to it. This is not your whites only country anymore.
Obaht Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 03:25
Give your head a shake dude, Obama, a black man with African Heirtage is president of the most powerful nation on earth.

Put Obama and Zuma side by side and see what I mean.

People are not judged by the colour of their skin but by the contents of their characters. Obama is an outstanding human being. Next to him Zuma looks like a midget.

(I have no qualm about having a president of colour. I welcome it.)

SA will lose because of extremely poor leadership. That is a fact. Get used to seeing your standard of living fall.
Obaht Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 03:28
Oh, by the way. Did I mention that he drove one of his wives to suicide.

Pretty extreme man, isnt’t he?

Good leadership material.

It also occured to me that if Zuma was white, there is no way you would accept a leader like that.
Richard Catto Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 10:54
@Obaht: So what the fuck has Obama got to do with Africa?

He couldn’t get elected to take out garbage in Africa.

And who gives a fuck what you think is the better man, huh?

SOUTH AFRICANS prefer Jacob Zuma. The REAL South Africans, that is. Not the ones with second passports and white skins etc.

Africa is for Africans. That’s why you left. You were never a TRUE African.
Obaht Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 14:29
Like I said I do not have an issue with a black man being my president.

My point by mentioning Obama, which you deflected was that Obama is an infinitely better leader than Zuma. He is like a brand new Ferrari compared to an old used 1987 lime green VW Golf.

Sure the people of SA have voted, but what have they voted for? LOL. Time will tell. Again, I hope SA does well but with leaders that lack character I doubt it will come right any time soon.
Richard Catto Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 01:36
@Obaht: No, he’s not. Obama could never get elected in SOUTH AFRICA.

I’m fucking sick and fucking tired of Eurocentrics comparing political leaders of other countries with OUR leaders.

THEIR leaders couldn’t get elected to pick up dog shit in SOUTH AFRICA.

It fucking doesn’t matter how much people love them in America or fucking England.

Zuma is our fucking president, not Obama, not fucking Gordon Brown, not the fucking Queen.

If you don’t like him, fuck off out of this country. Oh, you already did that.
Obaht Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 07:09
catto, you really need to get a life.

Zuma is not a good leader based on the contents of his character. He will fail and this cult following that he has will be massively disappointed. Like I said, I hope you enjoy your dropping standard of living.

Don’t forget, you are a minority and history has proven that over thousands of years, ALL minority groups get screwed over everywhere.
Richard Catto Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 09:12
@Obaht: Why do I need to get a fucking life, you fucking troll?

I dare to think you’re full of shit about ZUMA and BLACK South Africans in general.

I don’t give a fuck what you think about Zuma’s character. Zuma WON the election. A free and fair election. Not a Zimbabwe style election full of intimidation and killing of political opponents.

The majority of SOUTH AFRICANS fucking love Zuma. They think you’re a racist swine and they’re fucking pleased as punch you’re not here.

You’re not a South African anymore. You never were. You were a tourist here from Canada.

Enjoy your new home. Don’t worry about our standards. South Africa is not your home. It never was.

All the white South Africans who have fled this country have demonstrated that they were only interested in living here while it was an extension of Britain.

They were never Africans.

Zuma got it wrong about you Boers. You’re no more South African than any of the British red necks who have fled back to Britannia.
A fucking Nobody. Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 09:19
Zuma is just a standing figure, he isnt running things. Its clearly obvious by his comments and his speeches. The guy knows nothing. He says what the people want to hear.

The reason the ANC are still in power, is becos they own majority. Majority why?

– One cannot underestimate the power of uneducated people in large groups.

- The rest, are simply loyal to the ANC becos of FEAR. Fear of another Apartheid rule. Why do you think Malema points fingers at every person that is against the ANC, calling them Apartied generals – no matter what colour they are? Hes a fucking drone. Doing what is expected of him. Bring fear into the eyes of young South Africans, well the older generation stay loyal…
It has nothing to do with race anymore. Its fucking power.

And I agree, get a fucking life Richard. Who the hell made you MR generalizer. You dont know what the fuck you are talking about half the time. You are just another scared little shit – making up for it, by trying to play the other side.

You are not solving shit. You are causing shit.

The more the people are educated, the more the votes reduce for the ANC. Its common fucking sense.
Richard Catto Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 12:46
@A fucking Nobody: No, it is arseholes like you who don’t have a fucking clue what you’re talking about.

My method of solving shit in this country would be to grab all the little whiners like you, beat the fucking hell out of you and then execute you. Giving a vote to you is like giving a motorcycle to a goldfish – a complete waste of time.

Get out of South Africa now. All the whiners and dissenters are going to be beaten into submission. No more democracy. It is overrated.
Obaht Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 14:26
Haha LMAO! Yes catto, you are playing the other side because you are scared of what might happen if you don’t. You are the troll here, even on your own blog. Haha!

The problem you have is zero credibility. You rant and rave about whites that don’t like the ANC as is all white in SA should have voted for the ANC. What kind of democracy are you wanting.

Why don’t you move to Soweto and put your money where your mouth is fool. I suspect that you won’t because you enjoy the “higher standard” of living that whites have in Cape Town. What a hypocrite.

You must be saying the crap you say to show your masters in the future that you served them well by suggesting that all whites who don’t support the ANC should be exterminated.
Richard Catto Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 16:17
@Obaht: I’m not scared, I’m a true believer in black power and Africa for Africans.

I think European ideas about Africa are bankrupt and racist.

Why the fuck must I move to Soweto? I never migrated to Cape Town, I was fucking born here!

Don’t worry about people exterminating people. What flies way over the pointy little heads of so many damn bleeding hearts when they cry about genocide and war is that none of those things pose a serious threat to mankind.

Disease has always been a far more efficient killer of human beings.

The 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, for instance, killed 20 million people in 2 years, more than were killed in 4 years of WWI.

Sooner or later, we’re gonna get hit by a killer disease that is going to chop billions of people from our 6.7 billion.

Hope it starts tomorrow. I’d love to live in a depopulated urban area, like in the movies (I am Legend).
Obaht Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 04:51
Are you stupid?

(delete)……I was going to say something, but it would be a waste of typing. I would rather watch paint dry that to respond to your ridiculous answer. You really are becoming a loser as you get older. What a buffoon you are becoming. I am beginning to think even Zuma and Malema would ignore your stupidity.
Richard Catto Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 10:47
@Obaht: People are the problem. We are destroying this planet with our shit.

I’d like to see the human race die out completely.

We are not worthy to live.
Marko Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 19:42
Richard, I don’t know how you work out that 99.99% of SA whites hate blacks. That’s a sweeping and unfounded statement.
In fact, I would suggest that many SA blacks hate everybody else. We know this because every time one of them is challenged or called to task, they scream ‘racist’ at us. We witnessed their hatred and capacity for terrible violence in the so-called xenophobic killings. We read about the terrible tortures that the black criminals inflict on their victims. We see and hear them dancing and singing, calling for machine guns and killing of whites. We hear about the ‘Uhuru’, a plan to murder all white Africans.
I would go as far as to say that most white South Africans are extremely tolerant considering the crap thrown our way on a daily basis.

We can’t help that you still suffer from your own ‘white guilt’ but for crying in a bucket, stop trying to make the rest of us feel bad about ourselves.
Do you call yourself an African because you are born in Africa? If so then every other person born and raised in Africa has that right.

Tell me, how do your friends and family feel about your anti-white sentiment towards them?

Fair elections? An uneducated, ignorant majority outvoting a minority is hardly fair. Zuma appeals to the people because he is a populist. The doos can’t even make up his mind how he feels about gays or Mugabe. The worst part (at least according to me) is that he is a fucking church minister…
Funny how they call him ‘the honourable Jacob Zuma’, a man who’s henchmen threaten military action every time they or his boss (the untouchables) is challenged or ridiculed in the media? What the fuck is a ‘youth league’ anyway, sounds to me like a breeding ground for mindless thugs and minions.

If you don’t feel worthy to live, by all means, remove yourself from the gene pool. I for one believe that as sentient, highly evolved and intelligent beings, we are the guardians and protectors of this planet and all life on it. We possess the capability to do so but we need to evolve out of the quagmire of religion, ignorance and greed.
Eric Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 10:36
uRichard Catto – le ndoda ayifuni ukuthetha ulwimi lwebantu bantsundu. Uthi “andinexesha”.
Hayi, kwedini, ndiyahleka.
AirforceChick Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 16:30
Quote from a whiner above: “One cannot underestimate the power of uneducated people in large groups.”

Quote from another whiner above :”Fair elections? An uneducated, ignorant majority outvoting a minority is hardly fair.”

Clearly this also explains why the Botox + DP Alliance (DA?) won the majority in the Western Cape. Cuts both ways, idiots.
Richard Catto Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 18:17
@AirforceChick: Finally, amidst all the drivel, comes some sense. Well done.
Marko Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 18:34
@AirforceChick, are you stupid? The DA won because the people of the Western Cape are seeing just how the badly the ANC has fucked up elsewhere and are sick and tired of the lies, stealing and general lawlessness.
@Richard, this is fucking drivel from another of your hero JZ’s stupid cronies.
Richard Catto Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 19:09
@Marko: South Africa is still a far better country under ANC rule than it was under white racist rule.

Gotta love the fact that when it comes to winning arguments about the ANC, it’s so damned easy because the SA economy is stronger now than it has ever been.

And that’s not to mention the much greater freedom we all enjoy now.

The DA has never ruled South Africa, and it never shall.
Marko Says:
May 26th, 2009 at 20:57
Richard, I don’t know what you mean by ‘far better country’. I’m not saying Apartheid was good but come now, you must be on crack.
We have the largest population in the world living with HIV/AIDS. We have the highest rates of rape in the world. We have the sixth highest murder rate in the world, after Colombia. We have drug dealers, pimps, prostitutes and gangsters living in our neighborhoods. You talk of freedom but you choose to live locked up in a security complex. We have a steady and constant decline in education standards. How is any of this better?

Economy stronger than ever… bollocks. The only things holding us above water are our tourism, limited international investment and events such as IPL. The ANC inherited first world infrastructure when they took over and we’ve all seen how they’ve gradually managed to fuck that up. Amazing how during a major recession, and when the fucking SABC is asking for a R2bn bailout, your buddy JZ sees fit to spend R400,000 on his daughter’s birthday party, her fucken 27th.
The stupidity is simply unbelievable.
Obaht Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 07:13
Just for you Catto.

Go about 5mins into the video and see what a a black preacher says about Africa. Very interesting comment on Mandela, SA and Zimbabwe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuEc-nFULY8
Richard Catto Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:51
@Marko: If you don’t like SA, emigrate. I like it just fine.

Zuma can spend his money as he pleases. If you disagree, then I’ll be requiring YOU to get MY permission before you spend a single cent you possess. I’ll only let you buy what I think you should have and the rest I will donate to homeless bums. See how you like being told what to do with your cash.

@Obaht: I’m not watching your racist Euro-centric propaganda.
Marko Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 15:31
@Richard, well you may think it’s just fine but it definitely ain’t, and the shit’s only getting worse.

Zuma can spend his money of course, but I wasn’t talking about his money. I’m talking about our money, ie. the taxpayers.
I’d like to know just how much this fucker is being paid if he can spend R400k of his own cash on his kid’s birthday party…. and remember, he has 18 children.
Richard Catto Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 16:14
@Marko: You said it. He spent his own cash. I wish I had R400 000. I’d buy a lot of neat things but no cake and no candles.

Okay, maybe some cake. After all, I’ve gotta eat.
Marko Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 16:37
What, Richard wishing to be a rich whitey? Surely not…

I didn’t say he spent his own money, I said ‘if’ but I seriously doubt that any of that came out of his own pocket.
Richard Catto Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 18:01
@Marko: You think Shabir Schaik gave him the R400K?

If I had R400 000, I still would not be a rich whitey. Not for long anyway.

I wouldn’t even qualify as upper middle class.

The middle class is worth multiple millions, most of it held in the property they own.

No, R400 000 is just one really good shopping trip at Constantia Village. I wouldn’t even be able to buy a pony and start riding in Constantia Hills.

R400K doesn’t even buy a townhouse on the peninsula.
Marko Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 19:10
No it doesn’t buy you a townhouse but if you could spend that on a birthday party then you would be a pretty filthy rich dude.

Seeing as 42% of JZ’s cabinet have private business interests, conflict of interest and corruption are sure to be the order of the day.
These are the same assholes that spent R200m of taxpayers money on their election campaign, a whopping R20m of which went to t-shirts made in China. R400k of taxpayers money on a birthday party is a walk in the park.

And you moan about rich whiteys!?

So much for the proud African culture too, arriving in an Aston Martin to an Arabian themed party in a dress designed by an Indian…
Richard Catto Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 01:00
@Marko: I’ll try to get you an invite to the next one.
Obaht Says:
May 30th, 2009 at 07:15
catto, your buddy Malema is doing a good job stirring up the locals. Perhaps you should see if he is hiring. He would love to have an A-hole like you doing his bidding.
Richard Catto Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 06:31
@Obaht: I love Malema. Away with Zille and her cucumbers, er, concubines!
Marko Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 14:06
Lol, ya, Richard loves any jackass as long as they are not white, especially the likes of clowns Malema, Shivambu and Duarte. Somebody needs to leash these monkeys.
That’s comcombines Rich, comcombines… and don’t forget, Malema hates you too whitey, no matter how black you feel inside. You’re just another white settler living in the suburbs to him.

Interesting how you and others talk about us ‘whiners’ but the very dickhead comrades you support in government are suing people, threatening ‘militant action’ and screaming ‘racist!’ over cartoons and other spoofs. What a joke, so much for freedom of speech – even the stupid SABC cancelled a Special Assignment episode on the subject of political satire. Africa and SA don’t need more dictators, this nonsense must stop. Have we not learnt from the past?
Criticism is vital and necessary to find and correct problems, and to keep telling others to leave if they don’t like it here is simply stupid.

Here’s some comic relief, courtesy laughitoff.co.za. I do so love the new JZ nickname Zumaniser, very apt.
Malema funnies. Do see the post titled ‘Dr Evil & Mini Me ‘.
Richard Catto Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 15:53
@Marko: If Malema and Zuma start arresting all the cartoonists and executing them in public, they will secure their re-election until Jesus returns.

Remember, this is Africa, china, not Europe. We do things differently here.
Marko Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 17:21
@Richard, wtf are you talking about?
Richard Catto Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 17:01
@Marko: I find it ridiculous for white South Africans to whine about freedom of speech and to criticise the ANC for not being tolerant of political cartoonists, because white Apartheid politicians were even worse, and white South Africans voted those monsters in religiously and regularly for 48 years.

Bottom line is no matter how bad anyone might think Malema is, white South Africans are even worse. Malema hasn’t killed a single white South African, but white South Africans have killed many black South Africans.

15 years ago is nothing. It’s not behind us. It’s not going anywhere. Our Apartheid baggage is here with us today and will remain with us for many years to come, just like the Nazis still haunt modern day Germans.

Bottom line is that white South Africans cannot point fingers at anyone except their own sorry selves.

Even if the ANC government were to arrest and kill all political cartoonists it despises, it would still not have caught up to the crimes of the Apartheid regime, so loved by so many white South Africans.

White South Africans should drink deeply of the cup of blood they prepared for themselves.
Marko Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 23:40
Here you go again Richard, dragging us back into another race hatefest.

How quickly you and the Malema types forget how these very cartoonists were against the old regime, and paid for it. Dimwits only make fools of themselves when they scream ‘racist’, the whole world is getting tired of that card.

Don’t talk shit about whites killing blacks. More whites and blacks have been killed during the ANC’s term than ever under Apartheid. You just love to self flagellate, that’s the problem.

Bottom line is, most reasonable South Africans, black and white just want to live a decent life with some semblance of a future. We don’t care who is leading us, be they black, white, coloured, whatever but it is just becoming painfully obvious that the current leadership is totally unqualified for the job.
Richard Catto Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 19:26
@Marko: Well guess what? Political leaders are not decided by whom YOU think are qualified or not.

Who YOU think is qualified is irrelevant.

Political leaders, even in your loved European countries, are decided purely on popularity.

Do you think a white political leader is ever going to be more popular than a black political leader in South Africa?

See, Zuma, doesn’t dance in traditional dress to amuse and win white votes. He does that to win black votes, because black votes are the only votes that count in AFRICA.

Africa is for Africans, not for Europeans.

You really do need to abandon all hope of your ideas counting for shit in South Africa. It doesn’t matter how reasonable you think they are. You are irrelevant in this country. All whites are. The sooner whites realise that, the better.
Marko Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 19:20
Richard, you make no sense. This is my country too, I was born here. Don’t tell me whites are irrelevant, who do you think pays for all the shit?
Where do you think the our laws, economics, political system, education etc. etc. comes from? It’s all comes from Europe. Africa would still be in the dark ages if it wasn’t for Europeans. I’ve got news for you, this ‘we do things differently here’ doesn’t count for shit, we live in a global village now.

Of course the majority vote will always win, but when the majority vote is ignorant and uneducated then there’s a problem. Herein lies the key, education. That is the enemy of Zuma, Malema and co. (we all know just how educated they are).

If you tell me that what I think is irrelevant then the same goes for you. You talk about AFRICA as if you are qualified, I bet you’ve never even been to another African country like Mozambique, Malawi or Nigeria.
Eric Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 11:03
Zuma to Malema: This Catto guy is a bit of a groveller, or what?
Richard Catto Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 18:03
Actually I find SA politics mostly pretty boring because South Africa has merely gone from being a one party state under the Nats to a one party state under the ANC.

If no other party has a reasonable chance of gaining power, it makes for a very unexciting situation.

Sport would also be very boring if one team always won. After a while no-one would care anymore.
Obaht Says:
June 13th, 2009 at 15:32
Catto, yes indeed, whites in Africa ARE irrelevant. It’s hard not to disagree with you on this point even if you are very disagreeable yourself.

Do I detect a little whiff of dispair in your tone now. My friends in SA tell me that the economy is going down a deep hole. One of them works at a bank and sees quite an ominous economic climate out there in SA today.

Seems to me that the challenges facing SA are now becoming endemic if not chronic.

For example, SA wants to establish a universal health care system like we have in Canada. This is a good thing but for SA it is pie in the sky.

Doctors in SA are woefully underpaid and I don’t blame them if they leave SA for greener pastures. My wifes family run a number of medical clinics in Calgary and I know for a fact that doctors there are taking home $20,000.00 dollars every 2 weeks after taxes. It is pitiful that the politicians enrich themselves with Meercedes and BMW’s where the very people who help to keep SA running, like doctors, nurses and educators are defecated upon by the government.

Yes, indeed. A very wretched situation in SA these days. It’s all an illusion and is sure to collapse in a pile of garbage in the decades ahead.
Obaht Says:
June 13th, 2009 at 15:36
PS, wait until Julius Malema comes to power after Zuma steps down in 10-15 years.

SA will burn.

Whites will be even LESS relevant when he is the lead boss of SA in the future. The poor love what he has to say.
Richard Catto Says:
June 13th, 2009 at 22:04
@Obaht: Your “friends in SA” are whiners. SA’s economy isn’t going into a blackhole. That’s just the usual crap from the whiners.

It’s called a recession and the world is experiencing it. It’s not anything specific to SA.

I wouldn’t go to Canada under any circumstances. I’m Capetonian. I’m going to spend the rest of my life on the peninsula. And I love living here. I have a great life right here.

You don’t know what’s going to happen next week let alone 10 – 15 years time, so I’ll take your predictions of woe with a barrel of salt.

It seems all SAs who move overseas like to play the game of telling everyone that SA is going downhill fast.

Sorry, but I just don’t detect any of that happening.

Thanks for playing, but you lost the game the moment you left this great country.
Marko Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 18:01
@Richard, I don’t see how your analogy between sport and politics is relevant. I couldn’t give a rat’s ass if our government was not entertaining as long as they were doing their job.
They ANC leaders do provide us with plenty of comedy but unfortunately they just avoid robbing the taxpayers blind – another R600m of fraud uncovered. I see your esteemed JZ is doing a two month tour to say ‘thank you’ to everyone who voted for him. WTF, two months!? Get to work you fat philandering, greedy thieving bastard!
Of course, you can bet that mini-me will be having his own rallies – that’s all the ANC is good for, rallying and giving out free Chinese t-shirts.
Thank you Helen Zille for getting on with the job while the other lazy bastards rally and rob.
Richard Catto Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 19:23
@Marko: the problem with being a one party government is that hubris sets in.

That’s why the Nats led SA into the biggest economic slump this country has ever experienced post GD.

So far the economy has done well under the ANC, but if we continue to have a one party government, our governments will become increasingly bad as time progresses.

We need to have two opposing parties which each have an almost equal chance of gaining power.

Two works better than 3 equal parties, because then 2 of them can form an alliance and shut the other one out forever.

With two equally popular parties, they both have to work hard to gain and retain power.
SA White guy Says:
September 4th, 2009 at 10:24
@Richard

I’ve read your post and had a great laugh. You are a >on!

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